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General Discussion / Wisdom, Sophos, Prajna
« Last post by StircrazyReality on September 09, 2017, 12:01:12 pm »What is Wisdom?
This will begin as a collection of resources on wisdom.
Heraclitus
Modified to better reflect Greek
(B32) The wise is one only. It is unwilling and willing to be called by the name of Zeus.
ἓν τὸ σοφὸν µοῦνον λέγεσθαι οὐκ ἐθέλει καὶ ἐθέλει Ζηνὸς ὄνοµα.
(B35) Men that love wisdom must be acquainted with very many things indeed.
χρὴ γὰρ εὖ µάλα πολλῶν ἵστορας φιλοσόφους ἄνδρας εἶναι καθʹ Ἡράκλειτον.
(B41) Wisdom is one thing. It is to know the thought by which all things are steered through all things
εἶναι γὰρ ἓν τὸ σοφόν, ἐπίστασθαι γνώµην, ὁτέη ἐκυϐέρνησε πάντα διὰ πάντων.
(B50) It is wise to hearken, not to me, but to my Word, and to confess that all things are one.
οὐκ ἐµοῦ, ἀλλὰ τοῦ λόγου ἀκούσαντας ὁµολογεῖν σοφόν ἐστιν ἓν πάντα εἶναι»
(B78) The way of man has no wisdom (γνώμας), but that of the gods has.
(B108) Of all whose discourses I have heard, there is not one who attains to understanding that wisdom is apart from all.
Ἡρακλείτου. ὁκόσων λόγους ἤκουσα, οὐδεὶς ἀφικνεῖται ἐς τοῦτο, ὥστε γινώσκειν ὅτι σοφόν ἐστι πάντων κεχωρισµένον.
Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wisdom/
This primarily follows Socrates trying to puzzle out why an oracle calls Socrates the wisest person. Two common interpretations are that Socrates investigations show wisdom to be either epistemic humility or epistemic accuracy.
On Pythagoras
Diogenes Laertius holds that Pythagoras was the first to use the word philosophia (love of wisdom).
A quick search for philosophia on the Perseus project brings up this.
Look at the Greek translation on the side and you will find the word φιλοσοφία
To back this up, here is a definition from the Perseus Project:
Buddhism
Meditation provides a foundation for wisdom. Wisdom is intrinsically valuable in Buddhism, and guides practise. Wisdom is seeing things how they are. For example earth as earth, body as body, mind as mind, feelings as feelings.
(In a discussion with a venerable monastic, we realised that this is what secular meditation lacks, a goal of wisdom)
Questions: Why is wisdom not fundamentally revealed to us? Why do we have to seek wisdom?
This will begin as a collection of resources on wisdom.
Heraclitus
Modified to better reflect Greek
(B32) The wise is one only. It is unwilling and willing to be called by the name of Zeus.
ἓν τὸ σοφὸν µοῦνον λέγεσθαι οὐκ ἐθέλει καὶ ἐθέλει Ζηνὸς ὄνοµα.
(B35) Men that love wisdom must be acquainted with very many things indeed.
χρὴ γὰρ εὖ µάλα πολλῶν ἵστορας φιλοσόφους ἄνδρας εἶναι καθʹ Ἡράκλειτον.
(B41) Wisdom is one thing. It is to know the thought by which all things are steered through all things
εἶναι γὰρ ἓν τὸ σοφόν, ἐπίστασθαι γνώµην, ὁτέη ἐκυϐέρνησε πάντα διὰ πάντων.
(B50) It is wise to hearken, not to me, but to my Word, and to confess that all things are one.
οὐκ ἐµοῦ, ἀλλὰ τοῦ λόγου ἀκούσαντας ὁµολογεῖν σοφόν ἐστιν ἓν πάντα εἶναι»
(B78) The way of man has no wisdom (γνώμας), but that of the gods has.
(B108) Of all whose discourses I have heard, there is not one who attains to understanding that wisdom is apart from all.
Ἡρακλείτου. ὁκόσων λόγους ἤκουσα, οὐδεὶς ἀφικνεῖται ἐς τοῦτο, ὥστε γινώσκειν ὅτι σοφόν ἐστι πάντων κεχωρισµένον.
Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wisdom/
This primarily follows Socrates trying to puzzle out why an oracle calls Socrates the wisest person. Two common interpretations are that Socrates investigations show wisdom to be either epistemic humility or epistemic accuracy.
On Pythagoras
Diogenes Laertius holds that Pythagoras was the first to use the word philosophia (love of wisdom).
A quick search for philosophia on the Perseus project brings up this.
Quote
Pythagoras called the principles he taught philosophia or love of wisdom, but not sophia or wisdom. For he criticized the Seven Wise Men, as they were called, who lived before his time, saying that no man is wise, being human, and many a time, by reason of the weakness of his nature, has not the strength to bring all matters to a successful issue, but that he who emulates both the ways and the manner of life of a wise man may more fittingly be called a "lover of wisdom."http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0084:book=10:chapter=10&highlight=philosophia
Look at the Greek translation on the side and you will find the word φιλοσοφία
To back this up, here is a definition from the Perseus Project:
Quote
φιλόσοφοςhttp://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=fi%5Elo%2Fsofos&la=greek&can=fi%5Elo%2Fsofos0&prior=filosofi/a#lexicon
I.a lover of wisdom, first used by Pythagoras, who called himself φιλόσοφος a lover of wisdom, not σοφός, a sage, Cic.: then in a wide sense of scientific men, learned men, Plat., etc.
Buddhism
Meditation provides a foundation for wisdom. Wisdom is intrinsically valuable in Buddhism, and guides practise. Wisdom is seeing things how they are. For example earth as earth, body as body, mind as mind, feelings as feelings.
(In a discussion with a venerable monastic, we realised that this is what secular meditation lacks, a goal of wisdom)
Questions: Why is wisdom not fundamentally revealed to us? Why do we have to seek wisdom?
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