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General Discussion / MOVED: On Translation
« Last post by StircrazyReality on September 25, 2017, 04:38:26 pm »
This topic has been moved to Philosophy and Literature.

http://continentalphilsociety.createaforum.com/index.php?topic=5.0

It is a preliminary discussion of transaltion. Now I have studied translation more, and can ask more nuanced questions. These thoughts are in different treads.
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Philosophy and Literature / Re: The Second Author
« Last post by StircrazyReality on September 25, 2017, 04:27:36 pm »
I have found an article which gives arguments for the Garnett translations of Russian over the Pevearian (PV) translations, contrary to the above article, apparent academic consensus, and the sentiment of my preliminary discussions with Pederson. There are some who want to stop the PV hype train.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-pevearsion-of-russian-literature/

In discourse with Pederson, I have come up with arguments for defending a preference for the PV version, and denying the arguments for the Garnett version.

(I'm writing in a weird way because I want to talk to you Pederson in real time, but also preserve a actual good philosophical discourse. I suppose this could be test to see if this is a possible way to hold a discourse)
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Descartes / Re: Modern Philosophy - the aim of establishing think as scientific
« Last post by StircrazyReality on September 24, 2017, 04:58:41 pm »
Would you be able to link to where you read Husserl's 'philosophy as a rigourous science'.

From reading Cartesian Meditations, I can see that Husserl has a very strong association with science.
I must admit that I have drifted away from science. Perhaps that is why I do not gravitate towards philosophy that seeks to align itself with science - I was going to pursue a career in science, but after having a small taste of it, I decided against it. If I were to align myself with science I would do pure science. As I am not going to do pure science, perhaps that is why I prefer philosophy that does not align itself with science.

Our Question with Heidegger, as he lays out explicitly in "The End of Philosophy and the Task for Thinking" is to follow up and discover the meaning of another possibility of philosophy, other than the realised possibility of science.

This resonates with me.

How can we reveal, in greater detail, the structure of that possibility of philosophy that is other than the realised possibility of science?
Where should we direct our studies?
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Descartes / Modern Philosophy - the aim of establishing think as scientific
« Last post by xavierhn on September 23, 2017, 12:20:00 pm »
The only genuine question to address Descartes with is this: how does science, as a method and knowledge begin with Descartes? When we talk about modern philosophy, we are talking about the project of Descartes to found "science" what he called scientia universalis, a universal science.

This concern of founding a 'science' in founding a proper method to the demands of an axiomatic knowledge, is found in every thinker after Descartes up until Hegel.

From this desire to found a first philosophy, we are talking about the 'end' of philosophy, i.e., the project of philosophy.

Husserl gives us a very clear picture of this movement in philosophy in his question of "Philosophy as a rigorous Science".

Our Question with Heidegger, as he lays out explicitly in "The End of Philosophy and the Task for Thinking" is to follow up and discover the meaning of another possibility of philosophy, other than the realised possibility of science.
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Philosophy and Literature / Re: Is existence truly sensuous? (Nietzsche's The Gay Science)
« Last post by pdrsn on September 20, 2017, 11:46:11 am »
The world compared to music.

When I read the above, I think that there is something that we are missing in our life in our relationship with the world and that this fundamentally changes things, what that change is I don't know.

When we listen to music we interact with it in a few ways, just the surface sensuousness but also the 'mechanical' theoretical side (if we have learnt music theory).

How would we live and think if we treated life as if it were music?
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Presocratics / Re: Parmenides essays
« Last post by StircrazyReality on September 18, 2017, 05:06:18 pm »
Further clarifying questions

4.
Why is truth distant from us?
Why is truth not right before us?


5.
Can we discard Doxa? Can we set this discarding as a goal once the Way of Truth has been traveled.
Our preliminary answer is no. It appears Doxa is something fundamental. There is more to be thought here.

Sub Question: Why is the relation between Doxa, concealedness and untruth
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General Discussion / Re: UYSD Philosophy units for 2018
« Last post by StircrazyReality on September 18, 2017, 04:47:25 pm »
It's a secret.  :P










I came across it through sydney abroad. Here is the original source: http://sydney.edu.au/future-students/documents/sydney-abroad-units.pdf

It is meant for exchange students looking to study in sydney. I don't know why they get to know before us thought.
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General Discussion / Re: UYSD Philosophy units for 2018
« Last post by pdrsn on September 18, 2017, 03:53:23 pm »
can you confirm this list is accurate? how did you come by it?
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Nietzsche, Friedrich. The Gay Science.

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'Science' as prejudice. - It follows from the laws that govern rank ordering
(Rangordnung) that scholars, insofar as they belong to the
intellectual middle class, are not even allowed to catch sight of the truly
great problems and question marks; moreover, their courage and eyes
simply don't reach that far - and above all, the need that makes them
scholars, their inner expectations and wish that things might be such and
such, their fear and hope, too soon find rest and satisfaction. What
makes, for instance, the pedantic Englishman Herbert Spencer rave in
his own way and makes him draw a line of hope, a horizon which
defines what is desirable; that definitive reconciliation of 'egoism and
altruism' about which he spins fables - this almost nauseates the likes of
us: a human race that adopts as its ultimate perspective such a
Spencerian perspective would strike us as deserving of contempt, of
annihilation! But that he had to view as his highest hope what to others
counts and should count only as a disgusting possibility is a question
mark that Spencer would have been unable to foresee. So, too, it is with
the faith with which so many materialistic natural scientists rest
content: the faith in a world that is supposed to have its equivalent and
measure in human thought, in human valuations - a 'world of truth'
that can be grasped entirely with the help of our four-cornered little
human reason - What? Do we really want to demote existence in this
way to an exercise in arithmetic and an indoor diversion for mathematicians?

Above all, one shouldn't want to strip it of its ambiguous
character: that, gentlemen, is what good taste demands - above all, the
taste of reverence for everything that lies beyond your horizon! That the
only rightful interpretation of the world should be one to which you
have a right; one by which one can do research and go on scientifically
in your sense of the term (you really mean mechanistically?) - one that
permits counting, calculating, weighing, seeing, grasping, and nothing
else - that is a crudity and naivete, assuming it is not a mental illness, an
idiocy. Would it not be quite probable, conversely, that precisely the
most superficial and external aspect of existence - what is most
apparent; its skin and its sensualization - would be grasped first and
might even be the only thing that let itself be grasped?
Thus, a
'scientific' interpretation of the world, as you understand it, might still
be one of the stupidest of all possible interpretations of the world, i.e. one
of those most lacking in significance. This to the ear and conscience of
Mr Mechanic, who nowadays likes to pass as a philosopher and insists
that mechanics is the doctrine of the first and final laws on which
existence may be built
, as on a ground floor. But an essentially
mechanistic world would be an essentially meaningless world! Suppose
one judged the value of a piece of music according to how much of it
could be counted, calculated, and expressed in formulas - how absurd
such a 'scientific' evaluation of music would be What would one have
comprehended, understood, recognized? Nothing, really nothing of
what is 'music' in it!
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